Monday, 11 November 2019

"HELL IS REAL!" - SECOND FIDDLE

We've had 'bible bashers' up here today.
I saw a couple creeping up to the back door front door back door front door this morning*.
I went out on to the deck to see what they wanted although I could tell what they were by the way they were dressed and that weird look that they all adopt - a mixture of arrogance and servitude combined - weird anyway.



I told them when they asked if I wanted to hear about the bible that we had some thanks. That kind of confused them and after a bit of silence they wished me a nice day and went away.
I noticed that they were part of a large group who had come to the area in vans and were making their way along our street.

After breakfast and the obligatory silence at 11AM on Armistice Day unbroken by any noisy trumpet players I went to the gym. On returning from the gym I stopped off at my sister's rental house which is empty while she seeks to sell it. This is on the main road around the bay. I checked the house to make sure all was secure and while doing this another couple of 'bible basher's came to the door. These ones really looked like 'Dick Handlers' and I repeated my answer that we had some thanks. This lot looked at me strangely, probably noticing that I was standing in the doorway of a totally empty house that had the drapes closed. In the garden there is a very creepy looking scarecrow that looks like something out of a Stephen King inspired film. They mumbled something and quickly moved off.


I closed up the house and left for home just down the road. I saw the 'bible basher's' getting into another one of the vans no doubt thanking their Jesus that they hadn't been hacked to death this time. Robert of course might see this as an opportunity for martyrdom missed.






* Our villa was installed back to front when it was moved here years ago. The front door entrance is at the back and the kitchen door is at the front so most people come in the kitchen (back) door when visiting.

Friday, 4 October 2019

MENTAL

I like Sean Lock, he's one of my favourite comedians.

In his recent stand-up routine he recounts how although brought up as a Catholic he's been an atheist most of his life but has recently rediscovered god and religion. The 'rediscovery' I'll take with a grain of salt.

See here:     SEAN LOCK - RELIGION

Friday, 13 September 2019

GOD ON YOU

Robert may wish to obtain a copy of THE IDIOT BRAIN by Dean Burnett.


"A neuroscientist’s irreverent guide to the brain.
In this witty and informative debut, popular Guardian science blogger and sometime stand-up comedian Burnett (Psychological Medicine and Clinical Neurosciences/Cardiff University) describes “the weird and peculiar processes” of the brain and the bizarre behaviours that often result."
          - Kirkus review (see: THE IDIOT BRAIN


In his recent post (soon to be deleted) Robert aka Second said :
"If I said I believed in fairies or aliens people would either chuckle or say GOOD ON YOU.
But to say I believe that Jesus died for my and everyone's sin brings a tirade of condemnation and abuse."
This made me think of The Idiot Brain where Burnett discusses religious belief and suggests that it isn't a delusion - at least not in psychological terms.
Burnett opines that religious beliefs are incompatible with scientific evidence and observable reality, but aren’t considered to be delusions.

"If someone told you, in all seriousness, that they talk to invisible beings who control the universe, you’d probably back away slowly, nodding and smiling, while desperately looking for the nearest exit or escape route. If this person then said they wanted to be in charge of your life, you’d probably do the same, but more urgently, and with a view to finding the nearest police officer. And yet, this happens all the time. Jacob Rees-Mogg recently blamed his extreme and unpleasant views on his Catholicisim, which was seen as a valid excuse by many.  Ex UK prime minister Theresa May has made a big deal about how her Christian upbringing makes her suitable for the role. And despite the lawful separation of church and state, every official and wannabe US president has had to emphasise their religious inclinations. Even Trump, whose enthusiasm for maintaining the noble traditions of the presidency can be described as limited at best."
              - The Guardian (article adapted from The Idiot Brain).



Psychosis is defined as a loss of contact with reality manifested by seeing things that aren't there. Delusions can be defined as believing something that is demonstrably not true but, because delusions are about what someone believes, not sees, it's harder to easily disprove them even though they are inconsistent with reality.
We do look askance at people who have delusional beliefs about aliens sending messages to their brains and that the Inland Revenue Department is spying on them but when we criticise delusional belief by religious people in some mythical creator who rules their lives the immediate response is that we don't have faith because were atheists.

Here's The Guardians's interpretation of Dean Burnett's take on this:
But then, that begs the question, why do religious beliefs get a free pass? People are very resistant to those being challenged too. And believing that there’s a kindly-but-all-powerful father figure in the sky who watches and judges everything you do and his son who died but came back to life two millennia ago is going to return any minute, surely that’s no less likely than someone being targeted by a shadowy government conspiracy? It’s substantially less likely, in actual fact. What gives?

Well, delusions are believed to stem from anomalous activity in the brain’s system for interpreting what does happen and what should happen. The brain essentially maintains a mental model of how the world is meant to work, and what things are meant to happen and when. Beliefs, experiences, expectations, assumptions, calculations; all are combined into a constantly-updated general understanding of how things happen, so we know what to expect and how to react without having to figure everything out from scratch each time. Luckily, the brain is usually quite good at filtering out irrelevant information and occurrences that would otherwise challenge this model of how the world works.
Delusions are what happens when, due to illness or other disruption, this delicate system fails, and things we perceive that would usually be dismissed as innocuous or irrelevant end up being processed as far more significant, and our belief system alters to accommodate it, however wrongly.
But the thing is, our brains don’t come with an understanding of the complex science of how the world works already preinstalled, like Windows 10 on a new laptop. This mental model of the world is built up over time, from life experiences and other learning. So, if you’ve been raised in an environment where you’re told by everyone and everything that there’s a kindly deity in the sky, or that the world is 6,000 years old, or that there are thousands of multi-armed gods controlling the world, or whatever, then why wouldn’t you believe it? There’s nothing that you experience on a day-to-day level that contradicts this, so your mental model of the world is fine with it.
That’s why delusions are only diagnosed if they’re not consistent with the person’s existing belief system and views. A devout creationist talks to God while in church, that’s fine. An avowedly atheist lawyer starts doing it in the middle of a meeting, they’re probably delusional. If both of them suddenly started saying the world is going to end in 30 minutes because of angry frogs living in the sun, they’d both be considered delusional.






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Sunday, 14 July 2019

ROBERT'S GONE. SO WHAT?

Robert's blog has disappeared again. It was known as Robert's Journey and some other names with queasy quasi-religious connotations. We don't know if it will return but in the past has come back under other guises so this could happen.

In the meantime Richard the bass bugger from Lower Hutt has stepped in and wants to take over where Robert left off. See:

RICHARD'S BASS BAG TO THE RESCUE

He claims to be - "Doing our bit for the Roman Catholic Church." but to me this is like making an agraphic person editor of a newspaper. Time will tell.

I do take exception to his claim - "There is no one around our little community to push the causes of the Roman Catholic Church." Hasn't he seen my blog? What doesn't he understand about The RELIGIOUS Curmudgeon? What's so hard about that?
OK, I admit that in earlier posts I've been in dispute with ex Robert about religion and it is on record that I said:

"It's true that I don't believe in a religion. I'm not deeply religious but I think that I am moralistic. It's fair to say though that I'm not devout, pious, reverent, believing, godly, God-fearing, dutiful, saintly, holy, prayerful, churchgoing, practising, faithful, devoted, and committed so maybe, dare I say it, that Robert is correct.  ........ OK I'm not religious. SO WHAT!"
But since Robert has gone with no blogging forwarding address I believe that I am the best person to take over his evangelising proselytising messaging. Richard, after all is confused as seen in his first missive when he said:

"Angry Jesus will be taking over the pope's roll."

What?

His bread roll?



His toilet paper?




He even showed an image of an out of date pope  ....... OK, I know that they are all out of date but Richard used an image of the ex Nazi pope not the new South American one ....... mmmmm.


My advice to you is to be very careful of what you read in Richard's new religious posts. It would be safer to read what you need to know in the posts on this blog as you know that I won't mislead, prevaricate or pretend that there are flying mythical beings out there watching and evaluating your every move.


Saturday, 13 April 2019

WHAT'S IN A NAME?



"The Religious Curmudgeon isn't religious" bleated Robert in a comment on my last post.

Well, so what?

SO WHAT

RELIGIOUS
adjective
relating to or believing in a religion.
"both men were deeply religious and moralistic"
synonyms: devout, pious, reverent, believing, godly, God-fearing, dutiful, saintly, holy, prayerful, churchgoing, practising, faithful, devoted, committed
"he was a very religious person"

Well, so what?


It's true that I don't believe in a religion. I'm not deeply religious but I think that I am moralistic. It's fair to say though that I'm not devout, pious, reverent, believing, godly, God-fearing, dutiful, saintly, holy, prayerful, churchgoing, practising, faithful, devoted, and committed so maybe, dare I say it, that Robert is correct.

There's always a first time.

Yesterday some christians put a booklet in my letterbox.




This "diverse group of christian churches from throughout New Zealand came together to commemorate the 200-year anniversary of the arrival of christianity in New Zealand and the beginning of a 'hope-filled' bicultural partnership with Maori.'' 

Or so it says on the back page.

What a load of codswallop. I don't believe that 200 years ago the poorly educated, impoverished and narrow-minded christians were thinking of a 'bicultural partnership with Maori'. They were capturing souls, racking them up like kids did in that stupid Pokemon Go craze of a couple of years ago. That and 'collecting' the land that Maori lived on.


HOPE FOR ALL is the title and it is the fifth in a series. This 2019 booklet has the two themes of:
  1. Our attitude towards the poor (charity) and 
  2. Women's equality with men (a 125th anniversary).
OK, both of these are worthwhile but my worry is that these have been appropriated by these christians who present them as if it is only christians who can deliver charity and provide equality for women.

Bollocks!

Look don't get me wrong. I approve of most of the christians 'social' messages and actually live my life within their parameters but what really pisses me off is that anything good is appropriated by the christians and wrapped up in religious mumbo jumbo and, particularly with the catholics, history is reinterpreted to suggest that Jesus invented it all. They conveniently gloss over the fact that the churches appropriated Easter from pagan Brits (Eastron), Jews (Passover), Sumerians (Inanna) and many other cultures and religions.


OK I'm not religious.

SO WHAT!

















Thursday, 11 April 2019

RUN FOR THE SHADOWS





Robert has been evangelising again. I wonder if Christianity is like the pyramid schemes of AMWAY and Golden Products where the middle man, in this case Robert, has to build up a big customer base to shovel his shit product to in order to make profit.

In the late 1960s a cousin of mine, Neil, wanted to get rich quick and got into Golden Products. This was a pyramid scheme scam based on household cleaning products which were basically overpriced rubbish. Poor old Neil. against the extended family's warnings went ahead and signed up. He was given some grand title as a distributor, lots of certificates and a garage full of cleaning crap that proved to be perishable. All for the contents of his bank account bolstered by some borrowing. Of course Neil couldn't sign up any gullible sub-distributors, couldn't get any direct customers and for the next 10 years tried to give away the shit as birthday and Christmas presents.



Maybe Robert has a shed load of Catholic paraphernalia to go with his head-full of Catholic and Christian nonsense?

Here's Robert's latest post:

SOME CATHOLIC NONSENSE

And here (as no doubt he will delete this post and possibly the whole blog soon) is the transcript:

So what will heaven be like?
We'll go to heaven first in spirit. The body will follow later.
Then we will be in heaven body and soul like Jesus walking around on earth after His resurrection. Remember how he could walk through walls?
Heaven will not be a place just for saints.
You will have to work really hard not to go there and to get there to boot.
God "Please join me in heaven".
Person "No".
God "Please join me in heaven".
Person "No".
God "OK I'll ask you again later on".
Heaven will be like being at Sunday Mass forever.
There will be choirs singing. You will be singing too. Jesus will be part of you too.

Are you ready to sign up?

Tuesday, 26 March 2019

JESUS MURDERS A CARING LARGE PERSON




Not Josef but he's gone.


What is it with Christians and their ridiculous belief in a mythical person who/which is supposed to be kind and loving but in most of the fairy tales built up around him/her/it seems to be a vengeful and cruel psychopath?

In The Old Testament God is particularly violent. There are many instances where he/she/it requires the death penalty. Among the 'crimes' are sacrificing to a god other than Yahweh (Exodus 22:20), persistent rebelliousness on the part of a child (Deuteronomy 21:18–21), a child who hits or curses his or her parents (Exodus 21:15 and 17), working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), premarital sexual intercourse (Deuteronomy 22:13–21), and the requirement for a priest to burn his daughter alive if she became a prostitute (Leviticus 21:9). It's a bit blood thirsty to be honest.

When God isn't demanding the death penalty he/she/it is often seen indulging in a bit of anger and wrath. with the punishment given out seeming to be particularly harsh, unjust, and disproportionate.
In 2 Samuel 24 King David decided to take a census of the men of fighting age. The prophet Gad was sent to David to announce God’s displeasure with the taking of the census. The punishment for David’s sin: “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died” (2 Samuel 24:15). David made a decision that does not please God, and God kills 70,000 Israelites for it? How could this action ever be reconciled with a God of mercy, compassion, justice, and love?

There are plenty more examples of this nutter's overreaction but I'll leave it to you to find them.


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The subject of this post is of Jesus of The New Testament fame.

I'm sure that you remember this story from your childhood:









The Selfish Giant -  Oscar Wilde

Every afternoon, as they were coming from school, the children used to go and play in the Giant’s garden. It was a large lovely garden, with soft green grass. Here and there over the grass stood beautiful flowers like stars, and there were twelve peach-trees that in the spring-time broke out into delicate blossoms of pink and pearl, and in the autumn bore rich fruit. The birds sat on the trees and sang so sweetly that the children used to stop their games in order to listen to them. “How happy we are here!” they cried to each other. One day the Giant came back. He had been to visit his friend the Cornish ogre, and had stayed with him for seven years. After the seven years were over he had said all that he had to say, for his conversation was limited, and he determined to return to his own castle. When he arrived he saw the children playing in the garden. “What are you doing here?” he cried in a very gruff voice, and the children ran away. “My own garden is my own garden,” said the Giant; “any one can understand that, and I will allow nobody to play in it but myself.” So he built a high wall all round it, and put up a notice-board. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSECUTED He was a very selfish Giant. The poor children had now nowhere to play. They tried to play on the road, but the road was very dusty and full of hard stones, and they did not like it. They used to wander round the high wall when their lessons were over, and talk about the beautiful garden inside. “How happy we were there,” they said to each other. Then the Spring came, and all over the country there were little blossoms and little birds. Only in the garden of the Selfish Giant it was still winter. The birds did not care to sing in it as there were no children, and the trees forgot to blossom. Once a beautiful flower put its head out from the grass, but when it saw the notice-board it was so sorry for the children that it slipped back into the ground again, and went off to sleep. The only people who were pleased were the Snow and the Frost. “Spring has forgotten this garden,” they cried, “so we will live here all the year round.” The Snow covered up the grass with her great white cloak, and the Frost painted all the trees silver. Then they invited the North Wind to stay with them, and he came. He was wrapped in furs, and he roared all day about the garden, and blew the chimney-pots down. “This is a delightful spot,” he said, “we must ask the Hail on a visit.” So the Hail came. Every day for three hours he rattled on the roof of the castle till he broke most of the slates, and then he ran round and round the garden as fast as he could go. He was dressed in grey, and his breath was like ice. “I cannot understand why the Spring is so late in coming,” said the Selfish Giant, as he sat at the window and looked out at his cold white garden; “I hope there will be a change in the weather.” But the Spring never came, nor the Summer. The Autumn gave golden fruit to every garden, but to the Giant’s garden she gave none. “He is too selfish,” she said. So it was always Winter there, and the North Wind, and the Hail, and the Frost, and the Snow danced about through the trees. One morning the Giant was lying awake in bed when he heard some lovely music. It sounded so sweet to his ears that he thought it must be the King’s musicians passing by. It was really only a little linnet singing outside his window, but it was so long since he had heard a bird sing in his garden that it seemed to him to be the most beautiful music in the world. Then the Hail stopped dancing over his head, and the North Wind ceased roaring, and a delicious perfume came to him through the open casement. “I believe the Spring has come at last,” said the Giant; and he jumped out of bed and looked out. What did he see? He saw a most wonderful sight. Through a little hole in the wall the children had crept in, and they were sitting in the branches of the trees. In every tree that he could see there was a little child. And the trees were so glad to have the children back again that they had covered themselves with blossoms, and were waving their arms gently above the children’s heads. The birds were flying about and twittering with delight, and the flowers were looking up through the green grass and laughing. It was a lovely scene, only in one corner it was still winter. It was the farthest corner of the garden, and in it was standing a little boy. He was so small that he could not reach up to the branches of the tree, and he was wandering all round it, crying bitterly. The poor tree was still quite covered with frost and snow, and the North Wind was blowing and roaring above it. “Climb up! little boy,” said the Tree, and it bent its branches down as low as it could; but the boy was too tiny. And the Giant’s heart melted as he looked out. “How selfish I have been!” he said; “now I know why the Spring would not come here. I will put that poor little boy on the top of the tree, and then I will knock down the wall, and my garden shall be the children’s playground for ever and ever.” He was really very sorry for what he had done. So he crept downstairs and opened the front door quite softly, and went out into the garden. But when the children saw him they were so frightened that they all ran away, and the garden became winter again. Only the little boy did not run, for his eyes were so full of tears that he did not see the Giant coming. And the Giant stole up behind him and took him gently in his hand, and put him up into the tree. And the tree broke at once into blossom, and the birds came and sang on it, and the little boy stretched out his two arms and flung them round the Giant’s neck, and kissed him. And the other children, when they saw that the Giant was not wicked any longer, came running back, and with them came the Spring. “It is your garden now, little children,” said the Giant, and he took a great axe and knocked down the wall. And when the people were going to market at twelve o’clock they found the Giant playing with the children in the most beautiful garden they had ever seen. All day long they played, and in the evening they came to the Giant to bid him good-bye. “But where is your little companion?” he said: “the boy I put into the tree.” The Giant loved him the best because he had kissed him. “We don’t know,” answered the children; “he has gone away.” “You must tell him to be sure and come here to-morrow,” said the Giant. But the children said that they did not know where he lived, and had never seen him before; and the Giant felt very sad. Every afternoon, when school was over, the children came and played with the Giant. But the little boy whom the Giant loved was never seen again. The Giant was very kind to all the children, yet he longed for his first little friend, and often spoke of him. “How I would like to see him!” he used to say. Years went over, and the Giant grew very old and feeble. He could not play about any more, so he sat in a huge armchair, and watched the children at their games, and admired his garden. “I have many beautiful flowers,” he said; “but the children are the most beautiful flowers of all.” One winter morning he looked out of his window as he was dressing. He did not hate the Winter now, for he knew that it was merely the Spring asleep, and that the flowers were resting. Suddenly he rubbed his eyes in wonder, and looked and looked. It certainly was a marvellous sight. In the farthest corner of the garden was a tree quite covered with lovely white blossoms. Its branches were all golden, and silver fruit hung down from them, and underneath it stood the little boy he had loved. Downstairs ran the Giant in great joy, and out into the garden. He hastened across the grass, and came near to the child. And when he came quite close his face grew red with anger, and he said, “Who hath dared to wound thee?” For on the palms of the child’s hands were the prints of two nails, and the prints of two nails were on the little feet. “Who hath dared to wound thee?” cried the Giant; “tell me, that I may take my big sword and slay him.” “Nay!” answered the child; “but these are the wounds of Love.” “Who art thou?” said the Giant, and a strange awe fell on him, and he knelt before the little child. And the child smiled on the Giant, and said to him, “You let me play once in your garden, to-day you shall come with me to my garden, which is Paradise.” And when the children ran in that afternoon, they found the Giant lying dead under the tree, all covered with white blossoms.


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The little boy that the giant took a liking to was of course Jesus. So far so good but then this Jesus joker decided to reward the giant's kindness by knocking the poor bastard off. How unfair's that?





QUE SIRA, SIRA

I've been quiet for a while, being mildly amused at Robert's almost daily publishing of scripture that no doubt has been fed to him ...