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Tuesday 26 April 2022

HOW DOES THAT GO AGAIN?

 Robert's been banging on about god and Jesus and things again.

It seems that he thinks his deities are helpful to mankind and in some way set examples for us to follow.

My problem with this is that the instructions from Robert's gods are a bit hard to follow - kind of like when you buy something that needs assembling from IKEA or any Chinese manufacturer.






Now I feel qualified to comment on the Catholic Church's teaching as I was brainwashed  subjugated indoctrinated taught the Catechism for about 13 years through Catholic Primary, Intermediate and Secondary schools.

Now I'm not a stupid person but Christian Doctrine was my worst subject and the one that I continually failed in. I guess logic was my strongpoint and I couldn't find any in it.

No doubt I'll bang on about mention it again in the future but here are some examples:

According to Roman Catholic theology, the seven deadly sins are the seven behaviours or feelings that inspire further sin. They are typically ordered as: 
  1. pride, 
  2. greed, 
  3. lust, 
  4. envy, 
  5. gluttony, 
  6. wrath, 
  7. and sloth.

Pride is considered the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins on almost every list. It is the most angelical or demonic out of them. It is also thought to be the source of the other capital sins, known as hubris (from Ancient Greek ὕβρις) or futility.

OK, but when we look at the Ten Commandments that Robert's god lobbed out of the sky down to Moses it seems to me that old goddy is breaking the first deadly sin straight away and is a bit off-key with the others. This of course doesn't even mention the repetition that in the BBC radio game show Just a Minute was certainly a major sin.

Buzzz .... "Repetition".

The Ten Commandments

  1. I am the Lord your God. You shall not have strange gods before me. You shall not make to thyself any graven thing; nor the likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. You shall not adore them nor serve them.
  2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
  3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.
  4. Honour your father and your mother.
  5. You shall not kill.
  6. You shall not commit adultery.
  7. You shall not steal.
  8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
  9. You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife.
  10. You shall not covet your neighbour’s goods.

In commandments one, two and three, apart from the repetition, god seems to be a bit up himself which kind of commits the deadly sins of pride, greed, envy and wrath together.

Now I'd like to give Robert's god and the Catholic Church a fair go, fair go mate, but I do think that we should try and keep things on track.

At this level I'm just asking for consistency. There are a whole lot of other levels that we could investigate - and, of course write more posts about - that defy common sense  and logic. Most of these are embedded in the Catechism like that nonsense about the Eucharist, the Resurrection, the Ascension, the Assumption, Heaven, Hell, Angels, and the Revelation and a whole lot more are to be found in the Bible ( both testaments), Catholic apologists podcasts, Sunday sermons and Robert's blog posts. There's plenty of inspiration to keep us going for quite a while.

I guess, like IKEA and Chinese assembly instructions, a lot of Catholic dogma gets lost in translation.




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14 comments:

  1. Richard (of RBB)26 April 2022 at 18:07

    Great post. 10/10.

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  2. Anonymous27 April 2022 at 05:25

    Just a thought. Since God is outside His creation sin does not apply to Him. God by definition, granted a long definition, is Goodness. Sin is the perversion of goodness which we creatures do for selfish ends.

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  3. Anonymous27 April 2022 at 05:26

    I did chuckle at the cartoon.

    Robert the sinner .

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  4. Anonymous27 April 2022 at 07:27

    I would have thought that not taking responsibility for your actions is a least, cowardly.

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  5. Robert Sees Things in Sky27 April 2022 at 08:24

    Which raises the question of where does the idea of cowardice come from. We all seem to have a moral code we follow or at least a knowledge of how we ought
    to behave. And for sure we would all agree that personal accountability is inherent to all cultures. A moral code of behaviour must come from an outside source which is God.

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  6. THE CURMUDGEON27 April 2022 at 08:37

    Robert seems bent on proving my criticism that common sense and logic doesn't apply with his religion.

    That comment: "Since God is outside His creation sin does not apply to Him." is a doozy.
    It suggests to me that this creator guy can do what he likes with no consequences and, as I said, act cowardly.

    The silly deviation on the origin of moral codes, which Robert has trued to do before, makes no sense. "Cowardly is as cowardly does" as Forrest Gump might have said.

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  7. Robert Sees Things in Sky27 April 2022 at 10:07

    Yours definition of cowardly is circular and does not help the discussion. By definition of the word God has to be outside his creation. Like wise there can not be Gods in the plural because logic requires a prime mover or entity that was not created by another. Also logically God can not be bound by the rules of his creation. Nor it can not be anything other than good! Can you suggest a philosophy that contradicts me?

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  8. Richard (of RBB)27 April 2022 at 12:35

    So we have three entities in one god. God the father, god the son and god the holy ghost. That sounds awfully like three gods to me. Like three people in a car.

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    1. Robert Sees Things in Sky27 April 2022 at 16:46

      Three persons in one God. My goodness, Peter raved about how he had studied the Catechism at school, where were you?

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  9. Richard (of RBB)27 April 2022 at 12:38

    Or like a god committee.

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  10. Richard (of RBB)27 April 2022 at 12:39

    Or the god squad.

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  11. THE CURMUDGEON27 April 2022 at 13:51

    Robert said:
    " By definition of the word God has to be outside his creation. Like wise there can not be Gods in the plural because logic requires a prime mover or entity that was not created by another. Also logically God can not be bound by the rules of his creation. Nor it can not be anything other than good! Can you suggest a philosophy that contradicts me?"

    Oh yeah? That's your definition(s). There are others you know.
    Collins Dictionary for example has this:
    1. PROPER NOUN
    The name God is given to the spirit or being who is worshipped as the creator and ruler of the world, especially by Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
    He believes in God.
    God bless you.
    2. CONVENTION
    People sometimes use God in exclamations to emphasize something that they are saying, or to express surprise, fear, or excitement. This use could cause offence.
    [emphasis]
    God, how I hated him!
    Oh my God he's shot somebody.
    Good God, it's Mr Harper!
    God Almighty, Hart, you scared me silly.
    3. COUNTABLE NOUN
    In many religions, a god is one of the spirits or beings that are believed to have power over a particular part of the world or nature.
    ...Pan, the God of nature. [+ of]
    ...Zeus, king of the gods.

    Stop being so pompous Robert.

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    1. Robert Sees Things in Sky27 April 2022 at 16:57

      What a lot of nonsense. God does not rule the world! Yes he created it.
      Why use the name of God? Because we turn to God when in need. It's natural. God is the force that keeps us going.
      You talk like a five year old. Zeus was a creation of a culture as was Pan both of whom you do not believe in as an atheist so I feel no need to give you a history lesson. Why do you even mention them?
      I find the last sentence very hurtful. I'll let it go because I have no one else to discuss the reality of God with.

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  12. THE CURMUDGEON27 April 2022 at 17:42

    Stop being so pompous Robert.

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